The Over Spiritualization of Marriage with Phil Gungor

Phil Gungor, funny marriage speaker and the Pastor of Celebration Church Fox Valley, Wisconsin, joins me today to discuss the common challenges in marriage, such as an overemphasis for husbands to be extra spiritual and the tension that can arise from this. I took notes to apply myself! Phil emphasizes the importance of understanding and appreciating the differences in communication between men and women. Don’t miss this lighthearted yet challenging conversation.

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About Heidi St. John

Heidi has been married to her husband Jay since 1989. Together they have seven children and three grandchildren! The St. Johns homeschooled their kids all the way through high school. Heidi is the the author of seven books, host of the popular podcast "Off the Bench," and the founder of MomStrong International, an online community of women learning God's Word and how to apply it to every day life. She and her husband Jay are also the founders of Firmly Planted Family and the Firmly Planted Homeschool Resource Center, located in Vancouver, Washington.