Salt & Light? Why Christian parents need to pull their children out of public schools today. Listen in, and be encouraged!
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Hey, everybody. This is Heidi St. John. Welcome to the podcast. Today is Monday, March 16th. This is episode 898. It is also Mailbox Monday, and today we’re going to dive headlong into the topic of education. Stick around, I think you’re going to be encouraged.
So thanks for tuning in today, everybody. I want to say a special thank you to everyone who came out for Faith that Speaks in California. We are so thrilled, you guys. I mean, honestly, it’s hard to describe. Just so thankful to see the Lord working so clearly, and so plainly, and obviously in the lives of many, many people in the culture today to get you off the bench and onto the battlefield and to imagine what it would be like if you found your voice in the culture. And God says that you have a voice. You are to be salt and light. So we’re going to talk a lot about salt and light today.
I want to bring you guys up to speed on a couple of things. You know that we lost our battle over comprehensive sex education here in Washington State. Last week, literally in the middle of the night, two in the morning, legislators in Washington State in the ridiculously liberal, progressive wing of the party voted in comprehensive sex education, and it will be mandated now statewide in Washington State, unless there’s a miracle that happens and Governor Inslee does not sign that legislation into law.
There is a referendum being circulated now, so we’re already working to let the people of Washington State vote on this. But if there’s anything I’ve learned about living here in Washington State right now it’s that our votes don’t necessarily matter to the people who are making law. They’re not listening to the voices of the parents. They’re certainly not looking at the ramifications, long term, of the radical decisions that they are making. And because I travel for a living, I’ve had lots of opportunity to talk to parents around the nation. Obviously I’ve been speaking to parents in California.
I was in Peoria, Illinois for the Hearts 2 conference on the 6th and 7th of March and I get questioned all the time about the value of education, whether or not I think “is it really that big of a deal?”. And I am here to tell you guys right now it is that big of a deal. I said on my Facebook page and I’m going to say it again. I’m going to stop calling them public schools and start calling them government schools. Because as was absolutely proven last week in the Washington State legislature, that’s exactly what they are. The government is determining what our children are taught. And even the good men and women, good Christian men and women that I know, who don’t agree with this and see how insidious it is have no voice because legislators who are being driven by the likes of Planned Parenthood, and the National Abortion Rights Action League, and places like that have literally infiltrated. They are in every aspect of our government.
And if you think that our legislators are doing this by themselves, you’re wrong. They’re being pushed by radical leftists and pro-abortion activists, and they are winning in Washington, and Oregon, and California. Now, does that mean that we run away? Absolutely not. And in fact, I’m frankly getting very frustrated with listening to people say, “Well, I’m just going to move.” Okay, so move. Go ahead. Go to Idaho where you think you can hide, except for it’s there also. You can’t go to the south and think that you’re in the Bible Belt because the south unbuckled the Bible Belt a long time ago and now it’s just a belt like any other part of the country. And in fact, I would say in many places where we have the wool pulled over our eyes, or our head in the sand, or whatever you want to call it, and we think, “Oh, this isn’t happening,” that’s exactly when it does happen.
And here in the Pacific Northwest, this started many years ago. A lot of us just had our head in the sand, thought that it wasn’t going to get as bad as it is. And while we were sitting there defending what was happening in the public school system, these activists were basically building a foundation to infiltrate every aspect of public life here in the Pacific Northwest. And this is happening all over the nation. A large part of what I do here is to just sound a warning bell to say, “Listen, you guys. Wake up.” I mean, sometimes I feel like a prophet in the wilderness just trying to say, “This is so important. Please pay attention. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,” and I get the same things over and over from parents. “Oh, that’s not actually happening.”
Well, guess what happened last week right in my neck of the woods in little Brush Prairie? Drag queens came to a Clark County synagogue celebration of “Jewish Halloween.” Honestly, I was like, “Come, Lord Jesus.” What is going on? In a synagogue here in Brush Prairie, there was a picture of three drag queens, one of whose name is Poison Waters performing during a Purim celebration. I was looking at the pictures and I’m watching these older people who frankly should know better in this synagogue, and they were embracing what God says is sin. Can we just say what it is? Purim is a holiday, a Jewish holiday, that celebrates God’s rescuing of the Israelite people from certain death using Esther.
You guys, I’m so frustrated. I really am frustrated, and I’m starting to get … I think it’s just I’m just filled with this righteous indignation that so many Christians are willfully ignorant as to what’s happening in the culture right now and we just—Oh, it’s so silly. It’s so sweet. Everyone is wearing costumes, and we let loose during Purim, which is what the guy, this rabbi, or whatever he calls himself, said to allow these people to come into their Jewish synagogue and basically just thumb their nose in the face of the Lord of Heaven’s Armies. I’m just weeping.
One of the drag queens, I told you his name was Poison Waters. The Colombian refers to him as her, but it’s a man. So I’m just going to try really hard to ignore the pronouns and read it as it actually is. So pardon me if I stumble. [Poisoned Waters said that he was excited but nervous about the gig at the synagogue. “We do a lot of drag shows in a lot of places,” he said. “This combination is new.” You think? “At first, the drag queens weren’t sure what to wear or say. And then when I got here, I was totally comfortable,” Poison Waters told the Colombian.] Do you know why you were totally comfortable? Because that was not where the Holy Spirit was. Because when the Holy Spirit’s there, you would not feel comfortable. [Also, they were offered shots of tequila when they arrived at the Brush Prairie synagogue.] Right? Because you got to be just a little bit tipsy in order to think that you can dress like a woman and dance in the way that you did in a house of God.
So anyway, I’m so sorry, but I … You guys, we need to know our Bibles. We need to be salt and light. We are called to be salt and light. And yet, we don’t want to confuse what God says about salt and light with putting our children out there in front of the world and using them to do what we should be doing. And this is happening all over the place. So most of the questions I get here at the podcast have to do with culture and politics, and especially with education. I’d say education probably the number one. So I’m going to read some of your letters today and hopefully take you back to God’s Word and just remind you that you are who God says that you are. The culture can try to redefine you, and the culture can try to redefine the church, and the synagogues can start having tequila parties and drag queens, and the Lord of Heaven’s Armies says, “I am God who will not be mocked.” And we are setting ourselves up for massive judgment in this nation. And maybe just starting with Vancouver where I live, right?
Anyway, so here’s the first letter. This says, “Hi, Heidi. I recently heard your podcast about being salt and light in the public schools. While I understand the notion that this commandment applies to adults who have been trained versus impressionable children still learning, I struggle with how as a homeschool family you can find opportunities to evangelize. If our interactions are mainly siloed to fellow homeschool and believing families, how are we able to reach the unsaved in our communities? My son starts kindergarten in the fall. And while I mindful of the concerns with public school, if that is the route that we choose, he will enroll in a school with many Christian teachers who will ultimately be the ones deciding what gets taught in their classrooms. If all Christians in my community were to make the choice to homeschool their children, what does that do for our unsaved neighbors? I’m prayerful about the decision we make, but given the amount of involvement I plan on having outside of school and knowing we attend a biblical church and participate in Awana, I’m not currently convicted that homeschool is the only way.”
Okay, so first of all, can I just say to the mom who wrote this to me, I really appreciate your transparency. I love that we’re having this conversation. I think we need to have it. So thank you so much for basically being brave enough because you know what I’m going to say. So thank you for sending that to me.
That said, questions like this make me want to weep. It makes me want to cry because I feel like we’re not understanding the level of the battle and the complexity of the warfare that we are asking our children to engage in because we “believe” that they have many Christian teachers in the schools. And I’m here to tell you right now the Christian teachers here in my state are weeping also because the legislature is telling them what they can and cannot teach. And if all the Christians in our community were to make the choice to homeschool their children, you know what that would do for our unsaved neighbors? It would surround them with children who are actually being trained in righteousness so that when they interact with them as adults or interact with them at the library, at the grocery store, you got kids who actually know why they believe what they believe. This idea that we have to put our kids into public school … I’m sorry, into government school… in order for them to save their neighbors is short-sighted at best and dangerous at worst.
I mean, we know the studies. The studies are out. We know what’s happening in the culture right now. Barna just recently determined that only 4% of Americans have a biblical worldview. And even more alarming, only 9% of born-again believers in America have a Christian worldview. And maybe you guys have seen the devastating results of a secular worldview, which is this: broken families, wasted lives, ineffective Christians, drag queens in synagogues, for the love. And if we don’t get a handle on this, we’re going to just … We might as well just pack it up and go home. Of course I won’t do that, but you know what I’m saying. It’s so frustrating to me.
I said to a mother the other day who asked me a similar question, and I said, “Listen, I’m not going to set my child on fire to keep your child warm.” I don’t think that’s what the Lord is asking us to do. And I’m not trying to be a jerk, you guys, but I feel like I’m standing up on a mountain and I’m yelling and I’m saying, “Pay attention. The barn is on fire.”
And two weeks ago, when we lost our fight for comprehensive sex education here in Washington State, I literally fell to my knees and said, “Lord, help us. We need your help.” Because there will be many, many parents who because they don’t understand what’s happening or because they literally just haven’t heard about it and they just don’t know because, hey, we just drop our kids off at school and we just think everything’s okay, or because we’re willfully indifferent, we are literally sacrificing our children to the God of this world, and I don’t understand that thinking at all.
So I don’t think it’s enough to say that we’re mindful of concerns in the public school. This is way beyond “I’m concerned of the public school”. This is…you need to understand. My husband and I were having this conversation on the way into the studio this morning. He grew up in … went to a public school, and I went to a Christian school. And the difference even then in what he taught, and it was nothing like what it is now. They were not telling him, “Oh, homosexuality is great,” and teaching … You guys, I cannot even say the words that are in the sex education curriculum that is coming to your child’s government school. I can’t even say the words on the podcast because so many of you would write me letters and be angry.
And in fact, when they tried to read out of the curriculum on the floor of the Washington State legislature, madam spokeswoman, she gaveled them down and made them mute the microphones because it couldn’t be … Those words could not be said over the air. And yet this is what we’re teaching our children. You guys, wake up. Wake up. I’m sorry to sound so frustrated, but I am frustrated.
It shouldn’t just be a few people who are saying, “Hey, there’s a problem. It should be every single Christian in the state of Washington, and every single Christian in the United States of America, and every parent that has their head screwed on straight that can say this is actually not okay. Do you know why we have a massive rise in gender dysphoria in the nation right now? Because we’re teaching our children at very young ages … Thank you, drag queens. Thank you, American Library Association. Thank you, Planned Parenthood. Thank you, the National Abortion Rights Action League. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Because of institutions like this, we are teaching our children that their gender is fluid and if we just give them a hormone blocker and a breast binder that eventually they can qualify for surgery and then there’ll be sterile for the rest of their lives and it still won’t make them happy. It is not going to fill the void. Only God can do that.
I mean, this is a crisis of epidemic proportions, and we need to understand what is at stake. Yes, we are supposed to be salt and light. Absolutely. But we would never … What we’re doing, mom and dad, is we’re putting our kids on a school bus. Instead of girding them up for war, we’re giving them a sack lunch and we’re saying, “Hey, we’ll pick you guys up at four.” It breaks my heart. I’m literally just .. I’m stunned that this is continuing, and I’m still hearing from parents.
Like I said to the listener who wrote this to me, I’m not angry with you at all. I’m angry that the enemy has blinded us to the importance of education. Luke 6:40, “When a student is fully trained, he will be like his teacher.” The Bible teaches us that we are the salt and light of the earth, right? Jesus said in Matthew 5:13, “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again?” Can I just say, you guys, that our children … He’s not talking about our children being the salt of the earth. They’re not even going to have saltiness if we keep this up. And what does Jesus say about salt that loses its saltiness? It’s no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled by men.
Salt had two purposes in the Middle East in the first century. And because of a lack of refrigeration, they used it to preserve food, especially meat, because otherwise it would spoil in the desert environment, right? And the Bible says the believers in Christ are preservatives to the world. We preserve it from evil and that it’s inherent in the society of ungodly men whose redeemed natures are corrupted by sin. That’s Psalm 14:3 in Romans 8:8. It’s not talking about our children.
In the analogy of the light to the world, the good works of Christ followers are to shine for all who see. You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but rather on a lamp stand. And there it gives light to all who are in the house. We are called, as grownups, as believers in Christ, first to become mature and then to allow our light to shine before men that they glorify our Father who’s in heaven. And one of our main jobs is to teach our children to be salt and light, and we do not put them in an environment that absolutely goes against what God says is true and right and good.
And when my husband said to me, “Yeah.” He said, “I remember being in high school and even junior high and they’re teaching me evolution.” He said, “They taught me evolution as if it were fact.” And the difference between my husband’s education and my education was that I was taught evolution. Absolutely. We read Darwin. We studied the theory of evolution. And then they juxtaposed it to the Bible. And I began to see that my faith was not a weak faith, that my faith was actually … I was on solid ground to believe that when God said “I created the world”, I can stand on that and believe in it, and stake my life on it.
And Jay said, “Wow.” He said, “I wonder what would happen if at the same time the school had been teaching me that evolution was real and my faith was a lie if they were also teaching me that I might be homosexual and homosexuality is completely fine and maybe my gender is fluid because I don’t play sports and maybe I’m actually a girl.” He said, “I bet that would’ve really messed me up.” And the answer is absolutely it would have. And that’s the point. So parents, this idea of salt and light, please tell everyone you know. We are to grow as believers in knowing the word of God, which is why I started MomStrong International because I am extremely frustrated with what I see, a lack of biblical teaching in the church today with regard to women who are training up children.
The Apostle Paul said, “How come you’re still drinking milk? You should be to meat by now.” But so many of us in the culture, we’re immature in our faith. We don’t know God’s word. We can’t defend it. And I’d like to keep the podcast light, and I’d like to not feel like I need to keep saying this, but as long as the Lord gives me breath, I’m going to say pull your children out of government schools. If you would’ve asked me this five years ago, I’d have been a lot more ambivalent about it, and not anymore.
I’m telling you what, right here in Washington, I’m going to say it again, the legislature in Washington State has just mandated, they’ve passed it, it is going to be law that we teach our children that evil is good and good is evil. And the Bible says when a student is fully trained, he’ll be like his teacher. It’s never been more important than it is right now. This is why Firmly Planted Family exists. This is why we started the homeschool resource center. This is what my husband and I have been praying for and working towards for 20 years, for this moment in history to be able to say we can help you take your children out of these schools. They are no place for God’s children. They are no place for any child. But the Bible teaches us that until the Holy Spirit opens the eyes of our hearts that we cannot, that we are dead in our sin, and dead people cannot help themselves.
We should be involved in every aspect where God gives us opportunities to share our voices. And I’m just going to keep encouraging you. Get off the bench. Get onto the battlefield. It has never been more important than it is right now. Our kids are absolutely depending on us, absolutely depending on us.
I’m going to be privileged here in just a couple of weeks to be speaking for parent’s rights and education right here in my neck of the woods in Portland, Oregon. I just want to encourage you guys to come out. I think that as you start to see what’s happening around you, you’re also going to start to see lots more people getting involved in what’s happening and starting to stand up and say, “Oh, no. That’s actually not okay. No, that’s not what we’re going to do. No, we’re not going that direction,” and start to stand for righteousness in the culture for Parents’ Rights in Education. I’m going to encourage you to follow Parents’ Rights In Education. I’ll link back to it in the show notes today.
But, Washington State now having adopted several different versions of comprehensive sex education, including FLASH, including the 3Rs, and now they’ve also adopted a curriculum called KNOW. I’m going to be participating in a North West Safe Schools Summit, and I hope you guys will come out. That is happening very, very soon right here in Portland, Oregon Saturday, May 2nd. Put it on your calendar. They have early bird tickets available right now until April 1st. I just want to encourage you.
Walt Heyer is going to be speaking there. I will be speaking. Walt Heyer is speaking, and also Rebecca Fredericks who wrote a book that I told you guys about months ago called Facing Goliath. It’s her fight against the teachers unions. And this is a public school teacher, cares deeply about education, and she’s like, “Oh my word. The schools are on fire.”
If you’ve never heard Walt Heyer, you absolutely need to hear him. He’s an author and a public speaker. He lived many years as a transgender woman. He is now the author of several books. And through his website, sexchangeregret.com. Walt is raising public awareness about those who regret their gender change and the tragic consequences that they will suffer as a result. He’s going to share his story and warn against implementing hormonal protocols on children and surgical interventions for gender dysphoric children, and they’re going to be talking to you about speaking the truth in love.
Rebecca Fredericks is a 28-year public school teacher. She was forced to fund a state and national teachers union who bullied and isolated her when she asked for accountability, and she sued them at the highest level at the supreme court. You guys, this is going to be incredible. I am honored to be speaking alongside these incredible powerhouses who are going to be speaking the truth and talking about what’s happening in our public schools, so I hope you guys will come.
You can check it out. I will link back to it in the show notes today. It’s called Parents’ Rights In Education, North West Safe Schools Summit. Every single person who’s in the northwest within earshot of this podcast should come to this and hear what’s going on, and here you can partner up with people who are trying to make a difference in our school system. Boy, we need your help more than ever before. Saturday, May 2nd coming up from 8:30 in the morning to 4:00 PM at the Embassy Suites by Hilton at the Portland airport.
I love you guys. I hope you hear it in my voice. I care about you and about your children. We’re doing everything we over here to tell you what’s happening, to encourage you to walk with the Lord, and to know His word, and to live like you’re leaving, because you are. Stay faithful, everybody. Thanks for listening. I’ll see you back here on Wednesday.
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