In January, Nate Wilkins, a former Navy SEAL, announced his run for Congress in California’s 50th Congressional District. Nate, a father of two and committed Christian, offers insight and encouragement for anyone wanting to get involved in the culture and make a difference—even when the odds are against you.
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Nathan Wilkins, former Coronado based Navy SEAL, has just announced his candidacy as a Republican running for a seat in California’s 50th Congressional District. Currently working in the House of Representatives as an Innovation Fellow, Wilkins has always held a passion to serve his community and his country, first as a SEAL and now as a congressional candidate.
Wilkins is passionate about the sanctity of the traditional family unit, protection of unborn children, community safety and preserving virtue in our current school system. As a veteran he understands what it means to defend the United States; a country in which opportunity abounds for all, particularly without heavy handed government control.
He is passionate about his beliefs and thrives in serving those around him. Born and raised in Reedley, California, Wilkins is familiar with California policy. Similarly, joining the Navy in 2007 brought him to San Diego where he remained active duty until 2018. He is currently serving the House Committee on Energy and Commerce Minority staff, supporting on technology and cybersecurity issues. Nathan is married to Lindsay Wilkins and together they have two children. With the support of his family, Nathan will begin his campaign to run for a Republican seat in California’s District 50 which encompasses the central and northeastern parts of San Diego County.
Hey everybody. This is Heidi St. John. Welcome to the podcast. Today is Friday the 13th, I’m not even kidding. Today is Friday, March 13th. This is episode number 897 and today I am kicking off my Faith That Speaks conference tonight actually in Thousand Oaks, California and I’m looking forward to seeing some of my Southern California friends there, so hope you guys will come out. Our fall conference season begins in September, so if you live in Indiana, Oregon, Washington DC or in my neck of the woods here in Vancouver, Washington, you can check out the dates of where I’ll be at heidistjohn.com/events.
All right you guys know that is meet my friend Friday and I’ve got a special guest on the show with me today. Nate Wilkins is here and he is a former Navy SEAL who just ran for Congress. We’ve got a lot of stuff to talk about. Stick around, I think you’re going to be encouraged.
All right, for those of you who are looking at your calendar and you’re in Southern California and you’re going, should I come out tonight to your Faith That Speaks? You absolutely should and in fact I’m going to find out where Nate is because I want him and Lindsey to come. You guys, we are living in incredible times. We talk about this all the time here at the podcast about the need for more men and women of faith to get off the bench and onto the battlefield and I am really, really honored and thrilled today because I’ve got a guest on who’s never been here before. Nate Wilkins has been on the front lines. He’s a retired Navy SEAL, a former congressional fellow in the House of Representatives and he’s also a devoted follower of Christ. He’s been married to his gorgeous wife Lindsey since 2014. They have two kids and we’re going to talk today a little bit about where he came from and how he got off the bench and onto the battlefield. Nate, welcome to the podcast.
[Nate] Hi Heidi. Thank you very much for having me.
[Heidi] I am thrilled that you’re here. I don’t think I’ve ever had a congressional candidate on the show before. And in just the few minutes I’ve spent talking to you before we went on the air, I’m thinking we need to do this more because I think your story is going to encourage a lot of people. Let’s go ahead and just start kind of back at the beginning, kind of where you’re from and a little bit of your history and what motivated you to do such a bold thing is to run for Congress. And I want to find out, sure, I know there’s a lot of people listening, what district are you in in California?
[Nate] Currently I am in, while I ran for District 50 which would have been Darrell Issa, Carl DeMaio and Ammar Campa-Najjar. Big fight and I was kind of in the bottom fighting it out as well. Currently the votes are much more in Darrell Issa’s favor, but they’re on April 2nd they’ll have the final vote count.
[Heidi] Now for people who aren’t familiar with the 50th district, are you in particular? People are going, where is that in California? Where is it?
[Nate] That is east San Diego County and that ranges from Temecula in Riverside County and then cuts off at the border between Riverside and San Diego, goes as far east as Imperial County near the Salton Sea and then next the south border would be the Highway 8.
[Heidi] This is a huge demographic, a huge area that you’re looking to represent.
[Nate] Yeah. There was a lot of late nights driving around planting signs. It was a big area to drive.
[Heidi] That’s right. And when you decided, well let’s go back. I want to go back to the beginning because I think this is so fascinating. I love a story of somebody getting off the bench and that’s definitely you. Why don’t you go ahead and tell listeners where you came from and the brief history of how you’ve grown and decided to get off the bench and onto the battlefield.
[Nate] I grew up in the Central Valley of California. Very poor area. A lot of people don’t know, California is not full of beaches. It’s also a huge agricultural producer. And so I grew up in the orange country farming as well as the Sierra Nevadas. I split my childhood half between Sierra Nevadas and half between Central Valley. And so I grew up there. I graduated from Yosemite High School and I went to college in Reedley, that’s exactly where I was born. After about three years and not much moving, I decided to enlist in the Navy and pursue the SEAL contract. It took me about five years to finally make it as a SEAL. I broke my legs the first round, two classes.
[Heidi] All the moms who are listening to this are like, nope, check that off the list.
[Nate] A little bit of wear and tear on your body.
[Heidi] Well you know what? Not everybody can be a Navy SEAL. That’s an impressive pedigree all by itself.
[Nate] Yeah. There’s a little bit of stubbornness you got to have. Not going to quit.
[Heidi] Yeah, and to run for Congress and to be a parent in the culture right now, it requires stubbornness. Yes.
[Nate] Yeah. I got dropped from the SEAL program about a year into my enlistment and I had to go to the Naval Fleet and I was a computer guy. Basically I learned all my high tech skills in the Navy. Got a ton of education and then I was allowed to come back to SEAL training and finally made it through after five years.
[Heidi] Well and I think it’s important to say, you say you got dropped from the SEALs, it was medical reasons. It wasn’t like hey, that guy’s doing marijuana drop him. They had a reason, right?
[Nate] Yes. They certainly had a reason. Broken legs were that reason.
[Heidi] That’ll do it.
[Nate] Yeah. It took about five years and then I spent about eight to about nine years in the teams and I was medically retired in the end of 2018. That kind of brought in a crisis. And war is my identity kind of wrapped up and as a Christian, my identity in crisis right there up there in Him. But words, kind of my skills lie. On this fellowship through New America, which is a think tank and in Washington DC and they had a fellowship called Tech Congress, it was a little incubation. They bring in people with high technical abilities and human abilities. Able to react socially with people and relate to people. They say, “You’re our top pick out of 400, come on over to DC and work.”
[Heidi] Come to the swamp.
[Nate] Yeah. Right. I interviewed with a bunch of offices, personal offices and committee offices and I ended up picking the Energy and Commerce Committee at the House of Representatives. And I’m a Republican, so I have that leaning, but I did interview with Democratic offices to kind of get their viewpoint. They just, their culture didn’t really click with me and I go, okay. I went over to a Republican committee and we worked in the minority so I had to learn how to work when you know you’re going to fail. And that’s something we do in the SEAL teams all the time. We constantly fail and fail and refine ourselves. When I worked for a year, between the end of 2018 and the end of 2019 in Congress learning the jurisdiction of energy and commerce committee, which has the broadest jurisdiction in the United States, we had energy, technology and telecommunications, consumer protection and commerce and health and oversight investigations.
I came up on another crisis at the end of 2019 because the fellowship is only for a year. And I go, what are my skills in? And I just had, I had been eyeballing a congressional run since August, but I sat down. I was on the bench, I had a lot of fear. What if I don’t make it? What do I do? What’s my wife going to think? And I came home on the 7th of December and I said, “Honey, I’m flying out to California to run for Duncan Hunter’s seat.”
[Heidi] And how’d she feel about that?
[Nate] She’s like, “What?”
[Heidi] Well, I happen to know that your wife is really proud of you because I heard about you from her and she is just singing your praises, so excited. I am really encouraged because it takes courage to do what you’re doing. It takes courage for people to stand up in front of, and especially when you know that there’s a good chance you’re going to fail. Nobody likes that. It’s a crowd shrinker. Hey, do this. You actually have a pretty good chance at failing. Well, a lot of people won’t do it, but the only way that you’ll succeed is to get out there and keep doing it and keep doing it and keep doing it. Because I would say, especially for evangelicals in the United States right now, largely behind the eight ball. And we can either say, “Well, we give up.” Or we can say, “All right, this is going to be an uphill climb, but we’re going to start climbing.” And that’s what you did.
[Nate] I got to apologize for not saying this to begin with. The reason I did run is because I wanted to reflect the character of Jesus Christ in the culture today that’s really just disintegrating and for “freedom” across the US, how people just kind of act however they want to. This culture in the United States is disintegrating and it takes leadership or people who just are stubborn enough to say, “Let’s try to improve it,” to get out there and do that. And whether you fail or not, it’s going to be a learning, a huge learning curve, but you’re going to learn something.
[Heidi] Well, it seems to me that we are living in a culture that is literally for sure in the church and even outside the church, but absolutely where Christians are concerned, the culture dominated by fear and we’re seeing it now. Hello, it’s playing out in the coronavirus, every single day.
[Nate] Yep. I kind of eyeball the medical reports and I get my information from there instead of watching the 24 hour news cycle.
[Heidi] Good idea.
[Nate] Yeah. When you understand marketing, you as an entrepreneur, me as a political entrepreneur and I understand marketing, those tactics are used heavily in news and fear is much more, it’s a better motivator than positivity.
[Heidi] Yep. Yep. And we’re scaring people pretty good right now.
[Nate] Yeah. And there’s still something to be concerned about with the coronavirus because there’s a lack of vaccines for that. But to eyeball it and to read medical reports takes a little bit more effort than watching and being entertained by “experts” on a new cycle. I would suggest to your listeners, please go out there and read what they’re saying, the health officials are saying, and watch them on briefings from the White House and understand that. Instead of watching what viral politicians are saying or “experts”.
[Heidi] Yeah, interesting. I love to, I’ve grown up watching the news. My grandfather was a pastor, but we were always, he was very, very engaged civically. And he took me around. I campaigned for Ronald Reagan with him and he taught me the importance of civics and just the importance of keeping my finger on the pulse of what’s happening in the culture. But this was long before CNN and the 24 hour news cycle and even Fox News and all these places. And I turned on Fox News the other day and it was 24 hours nonstop coronavirus. And I’m watching, I went down to Costco and people are like, the toilet paper’s gone, the water’s gone, the bleach is gone, the hand sanitizer is gone. And they’re just freaking out. They’re stocking up in case the coronavirus puts you in your house for the next six years. It’s an amazing thing to watch.
[Nate] Yeah. I would have to say that, first of all, you should have been prepared at the beginning. And now we have to, now we, me and you, who are kind of a little bit more critical thinking have to be prepared for officials driven by fear, who might be miseducated about what’s going on and who decided to make it unlawful for us to come out of our houses because they’re afraid of the spread. Those are the kinds of things that are, it’s a weird parallel.
[Heidi] Yeah. Because it’s happening in New York right now. It’s just starting to happen I noticed that the governor quarantined, was it like a one mile or a two mile stretch and they called in the National Guard.
[Nate] Yeah. And I think there’s a city in California that made it unlawful for large gatherings in public spaces. Yeah. I was like wow, this is exactly why I came to California.
[Heidi] Amazing. Right, right. California needs you. Okay. I want to get back to your congressional run because this is so interesting. You basically, you announced that you were running in January and here it’s only March. You’ve not been doing this for a very long. And then what was that like? How come so late? You explained it to me, but I know our listeners would like to know. Why did you say I’m going to run as essentially registered to run in December, then announce it in January when the primaries were coming up in March. How’d you get to that determination?
[Nate] Well, so you got to set up your website, you got to set up certain things for people to come look at you and generate content. And I can’t announce without a website. I can’t announce, send somebody to there. It took me 20, a good 20 days to work on it. During Christmas I’m there working on my website, I’m there building the funnels, everything so that when I do announce people can be interested. So that everything you see on my website, all that, I was spending it away from my kids and wife during the Christmas break just getting ready for it now.
It’s my fault for not trusting God for Him putting in all my heart to get out there when there is an ethical issue with Duncan Hunter, I don’t want to get into that. He’s already got enough problems. You don’t need to kick a dead horse. But it was my fault for sitting there saying, “There’s an opportunity here.” And people saying, “No, no, don’t do it. Don’t do it.” Instead of trusting in God and going for it. But I still went for it and it took a bit of time for me to start up all my business operations, learn how to file, read everything. I did everything myself and I have to move out of my house. I had to move my whole house.
[Heidi] That doesn’t sound like a good Christmas vacation. That sounds more like a Chevy Chase vacation.
[Nate] You got to, and we were just faithful. We just had to go for it. I got on the ground with about 30 days left here in the district and we reached out to as many people as we can. We got some interviews, it was great. And we polled about 3,000 voters. It’s not enough, but we polled 3,000 voters in 30 days with absolutely no name recognition.
[Heidi] And this is your own money. People need to understand when somebody like you gets off the bench and on the battlefield, it’s going to cost you something. It’s going to cost you financially. It’s going to. Were people, was everybody just really kind to you? How’d that go?
[Nate] Yeah. When it comes to raising money, I only had a limited bandwidth to raise money. And when you go against a high profile betters like Darrell Issa, Carl DeMaio, the political action committees aren’t, there may be a couple that support you, but most people are going to go, “I don’t know if you’re going to be supportable because it looks like you’re going to lose.” And they kind of go off the numbers when they look at you. You got to be stubborn enough to go out there and do it on your own. Now I had friends and family that we raised enough for me to go out and get signs, but that’s about it. Most of it was our own money that we put into it.
[Heidi] Well, and so I want, I’m going to link back to you at the show notes today. I want to talk about a couple of the issues that you ran on because these are not popular issues. And yet I do believe that we’re starting to see a turn around. It’s slow, it’s like a big ship. We got to turn it around. You started, which I’m so encouraged by, at the top of the list of issues with the sanctity of human life and human trafficking. Why is that at the top of your list?
[Nate] Everybody’s like, you got to break it down. They told me, you’re going to lose a couple IQ points when you run for Congress. And I was working on so many issues on the Hill that I did. I had to break down to simple issues, but the most important issue, and it comes in and you can go off of this as a foundation, is the sanctity of life. And I go, I did a lot of critical thinking on my six days of driving across the country, all by myself. The kids and Lindsey were in the van, but I listened to the fruit of the spirit.
And the most important attribute is love. When we love life, our communities become safer, our families become stronger. We are looking after our parents instead of relying on social security programs, it should be the church, and faith based community and families looking after their own. And then, when it comes to the second amendment is protecting your family, protecting your communities, not allowing drugs, letting law enforcement do their job. And so that’s the basis and when we are valuing life, that’s where devaluing life has kind of taken our country down a spiral.
[Heidi] Yeah, no, it’s totally right. And we see that across culturally now. And so you’ve basically ran in the primary and you said at this point, at the point of this recording, you think you’re pretty far behind, not enough votes to get into the general, correct?
[Nate] Yeah. That’s what it seems like, and they’re still counting ballots, so you never know. Hopefully.
[Heidi] Right. Well talk to people who are listening right now, who they see because if any of us, if our eyes are open, we can see, oh my word, we’re in trouble. Godly people have really largely gotten out of politics. We’re not into, we’re not in politics anymore because we don’t do that stuff, but we should. And I’m wondering if you can address the people who are listening who are going, you know what? I just, I would do it, but I’m probably going to lose. What have you learned just from running in the primaries? And has it deterred you from wanting to continue to run again?
[Nate] got one of the candidates at, it was a socialist forum, but one of the candidates attacked me for my faith and was talking about the separation between church and state and there’s a little bit of an issue with that view of separation of church and state. The governance model of a theocracy is — what is the issue? One government under one ruler. And that was back to going back to the Pope as a ruler. That’s why we wanted a separation of church and state. It does not mean that there’s a separation of your Christian values that you bring in the government.
You bring those values because it’s a high standard of morality and ethics and those are the attributes you need to bring into. Now, I’m not going to weaponize God and say that He’s, that this is the way I feel He’s calling me and He’s going to make sure that I win. I don’t actually know that, I’m just stepping out on faith. But I think that people have that misconception that you can’t bring your faith to work. You can’t bring it into politics. That is absolutely untrue. Everybody’s got faith in something.
[Heidi] When you decided then to run and realizing, this is going to be an uphill battle. What do you say to the person who’s looking around their community right now and they’re like, I just don’t know if it’s even worth it. Is it? Do you think it’s worth it?
[Nate] If you’re going to, if you’re thinking you need to run, run, because you may not succeed this time, but you keep running and it’s about name recognition as well. Get your name out there and go for it. And it does not matter if you fall flat on your face. Does not matter how hard you’re attacked. It matters that you’re faithful to what you’re called to do.
[Heidi] Yeah. I love that you said right before we went, started recording, you said you’re not wanting to crawl into Heaven. What do you mean by that?
[Nate] I don’t want the smell of smoke on my robe at all. I want to be jumping and running into Heaven with just basically burnout. Burnt out, and giving everything I got in this life to give to Christ and bringing as many people as I can with me to Heaven.
[Heidi] Well, and it really is, and I know that you can speak to this because you’ve been out there. Hello, you worked as a fellow in Congress and basically your job there, as I understand it, was to educate the congressional members on the issues that you were well versed in and understood. You’re very familiar now with what we’re up against, I would imagine. Very familiar with the fact that the battle is real and people need to see it that way, especially God’s people to see this really is, when the apostle Paul said in Ephesians 6, that the battle we’re fighting is a spiritual battle. I imagine that you’ve seen that now on a whole new level, yeah?
[Nate] Yeah. And it’s not that people are against the Christian faith, it’s that they’re confused and open to everything. They just do not understand it. And when I talked about God, I got a lot of people would just turn off and just wanted to ignore me. And that’s persecution in itself. But most of the time people are just kind of just open and they don’t understand. And your faith might scare people, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be aggressive with your faith at all.
[Heidi] Right. And once you get out there and you start to talk to people and you begin to build relationships, at least this is what I’ve noticed in my life, I’ve been out on the public, in the public eye for a long time, taking a huge amount of heat in different aspects of my life sometimes because I went on the Glenn Beck Television Show and boy that was amazing. And then you come home and you realize you’re absolutely right, people don’t understand. But the Bible teaches us that without the Holy Spirit, we’re dealing with darkened minds. And so this is something we should expect when we get out onto the battlefield. And yet you can stand with confidence and boldness because of who you are in Christ. And at the beginning you were talking about where you find your identity.
And I think as believers, maybe we wouldn’t be so fearful if we remembered who we are and that this world is a stop. We’re just passing through. And so I love that you said you don’t want to limp into heaven. I figure we’re going to get there. Probably Nate, I think you and I are going to get there in a similar fashion. I figure I’m going to get there and the Lord is going to say, “Good job Heidi. You look a little bad. You look like you’ve been through the ringer, but good job. You didn’t quit. You didn’t give up.” And it kind of feels that way, doesn’t it?
[Nate] Well, and we have to be careful of works right and elevating our works above others. But we want to reach out to as many people as we can. Of course, those that tend to go out there aggressively, are just on fire for Christ. That’s great, but we aren’t after the treasures of this world at all. We just want for Christ. We do need to be careful of how we elevate the works here earthly and be focused on the kingly works or the kingdom works.
[Heidi] Right. Yeah, no, that’s true. And I think at the same time as we’re looking at what God’s asked us to do, there’s a certain amount. I know that for me there’s a certain amount of joy in it, even on the days that are really difficult, even on days when people are just like— why would you do that? Why would you say that? I had a guy call me on a live radio broadcast not that long ago. And he was like, I just cannot believe that you believe that marriage is between a man and woman because of a book, because of the Bible. And it gave me the opportunity. He said, “That’s so weird.” And I said, “I actually believe weirder things than that. I believe that a snake spoke to a woman in a garden.”
The Bible informs my worldview and it also tells me that I am to love my neighbor as I love myself. And part of how we love our neighbor is to actually get involved in what’s happening. That’s why I think Christians should be involved in what’s happening in the public schools and we should care about it. Because these kids are our neighbors and they’re the leaders of tomorrow.
[Nate] I think that when we become apathetic, so I worked Hurricane Harvey in Texas in 2017 and I’m not doing this to promote myself at all, but I noticed that when people became apathetic in a disaster zone, that things became much worse. But we wanted to pour our heart out there and help people. And we’re currently in that arena right now where people are apathetic to what’s happening. Now that can be caused by a multitude of things. But we’re apathetic to our government. We’re apathetic to a lot of crime and different sin that’s going on in the world and we need to become absolutely on fire to try to fix these issues.
[Heidi] I want to go back to what you just said a second because I wrote it down. So good. You should run on this next time. Nate, I’m going to help you out. I love that you said we want to move away from apathy in a disaster zone. And I think this is something I talk about all the time here at the show. I think one of the reasons why we see what is perceived apathy. Yes, some of it definitely is apathy. Some of it definitely is indifference, but more often than not, when I meet people who are and we talk about these issues, it’s less about apathy and more about just feeling overwhelmed and not knowing where to start.
It’s like when I go into my, as a homeschool mom, I go into the school room, well most of my kids are grown, but when I would go into the school room and their books would be everywhere and the kids are on the floor and this stuff’s not being done. I can feel so overwhelmed that I don’t know where to start and it’d be a lot easier for me just to close the door and back out of the school room and go do something different.
Because we feel overwhelmed and I feel like that’s where Christians are today. Just feeling overwhelmed. We look at comprehensive sex education in the schools, which I announced here at the podcast. We lost our battle over that last Tuesday. It was a devastating loss. Absolutely devastating loss. We lost at 2:00 in the morning when the legislators got together and voted on this thing in the middle of the night. We knew it was an uphill battle and yet we gave it everything we had and then we lost anyway. And I hear the echo of parents saying, “See, why did I bother? Why did I get up at 3:00 in the morning and drive to Olympia? Why have I spent all this time going to talk to my legislators when they were against me from the beginning and they were just going to vote against us anyway.” And so it’s less apathy and it’s more just overwhelmed and just feeling like, I can’t do anything, so I should just give up. Can you talk to those parents right now who feel that way?
[Nate] Okay. I’ll talk to you from my five tries for buds. Buds is not at all something that you want to do longterm, if not at all. But I wanted, I wanted it really bad. I felt this was what God’s calling me to do. And so I got to fight for it. I failed and I failed and I failed and I failed and I finally got through. And I finally succeeded and I went through some very intense emotions and intense situations to get through that. But God enabled me to do that. And for the Christians out there who are losing hope or are just overwhelmed, go back to the fruit of the Spirit and go back to the wisdom of Solomon and go back to your Bible and outline and come back to the basics. And go back to the basics and then go out and try to conquer whatever it is you’re trying to conquer.
[Heidi] Yeah. And I love the apostle Paul and his sort of mentoring of Timothy. You remember at one point he said, “Timothy,” this is sort my rendition. And I’m sure it didn’t go down this way, but it was just like, “Timothy, dude, what’s up with you man? Don’t let people look down on you because you’re young. Don’t let people look down on you because you lack experience.” And another time he said, “Timothy, come on man, back up. God didn’t give you a spirit of fear.” And this was Paul reminding Timothy who was surrounded by a culture in a moral and spiritual decline at the time to say, “Hey, there’s more than this. You are who God says you are.” And there’s something I love that you’re reminding parents, Nate, to not give up, to go back to what we know is true.
[Heidi] And we then when it’s frustrating and overwhelming, we believe in the dark what we’ve learned in the light. When the Lord illuminates our hearts and we understand the difference between right and wrong, and we understand the value of making, of electing wise leaders. The Bible teaches us that when wicked people are in power, the people groan and oh my goodness, the nation is groaning right now. We are struggling right now. And I love that you’re reminding people, what I’m hearing from you is, listen, remember who you are and we are who God says we are. We’re not defined by the culture.
[Nate] Yeah. And I’m not completely, I’m not faultless.
[Heidi] What? I’m going to call Lindsey. She’s going to tell me.
[Nate] I’m looking at the numbers and going like, God, why am I failing when you told me to do this? I’m a little mad at you right now. I’m a little this and that. I kind of want to give up. There’s a lot of times where I was sitting there just in the middle of nowhere, hard for me to put the signs down because I felt so embarrassed that I’m out here putting signs, putting signs out. Putting signs out. But I’m just faithful to God. Whether I feel it or not. It’s not about feelings. It’s about what God told you to do. Feelings are deceptive. It’s about what you know and what your faith is telling you to do. And you’ve got to do it whether you feel like you’re failing or not. And I look at the numbers right now, there’s 3,000 voters in 30 days. It’s amazing.
[Heidi] It is amazing.
[Nate] That I got and, and I only spent almost $1 per voter and it’s great. And you got to have the faith. You got to keep going. What you know, what you know to do, what God told you to do, you got to keep doing it no matter how you feel.
[Heidi] Yeah, that’s exactly right. And I love that you’re having that perspective. A lot of people see, they’ve been watching the homeschool resource center that Jay and I started here about two and a half years ago after a wonderful area businessmen donated a massive building to what we were trying to do to help basically public school refugees get their kids out of government schools and look for a better way. And a lot of people look at that and go, yeah, but I don’t have that. But what they don’t see are the 15 years of prayer that went into the moment when that building was given to us. What they don’t see are the tears that we cried and the failures that we experienced and the financial difficulties and having seven babies through all of those years while we were trying to do this thing. Typically when we end up doing what God wants us to do, it’s through failure and after failure, not before it, right?
[Nate] Yes. And there’s way more to be learned through failure. There’s so much. And through hard labor is where you learn the most and you get the most done and you have more joy during those times than you do during just comfortable success.
[Heidi] Yeah, I totally agree. Well Nate Wilkins, you are an inspiration. I thank you for what you’re doing and I hope you’ll keep me posted because when all the dust settles, I love Eugene Peterson’s interpretation of the verse. He says, “When it’s all over but the shouting, we’ll still be on our feet.” And I know that God’s going to do good things with you and with Lindsey and I cannot wait to see what the next run looks like and let me know ahead of time because I’d love to get out ahead of the noise and cheerlead for you as much as I can.
[Nate] Thank you, Heidi.
[Heidi] Appreciate it. For more information about Nate Wilkins, I will link back to him at natewilkins.org and you can find out what he’s doing and if you’re interested in getting off the bench and onto the battlefield, this is a guy you guys want to follow, so I hope you’ll stay in touch. For those of you who are in Southern California, I will be at God Speak Calvary Chapel starting this evening. I’m telling you what you guys, the whole weekend is devoted to helping you get off the bench and onto the battlefield. I hope you’ll join me and you can register at heidistjohn.com/events. Have a great weekend everybody, and I’ll see you back here on Monday.
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11100 NE 34th Cir, Vancouver, WA 98682
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