Now is the time for us – you and me – to stand up and show courage as we fight for our families. We know that what we are experiencing is an attack on our nation. We do have the right to decide how we want to raise our children, but it’s in the crosshairs and we need to take action if we want to keep that freedom. It will cost us, but we. must. stand. My friend Rey Reynolds, a police officer, is joining me again today as we talk about the courage to make a change.
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You may already know Rey, as he has been the beloved “Voice of Vancouver” for many years, singing the National Anthem at many community events. Rey and his sweetheart Kathryn have been married for over 28 years and raised 6 children together. After working a dozen years for the the Department of Fish and Wildlife, Rey had a heart for helping the community and made a career change. He became a police officer, and has served the community ever since. “Now I find myself once again in a situation where I must do more, and my life experience bids me to serve the community in the state legislature where I can effect positive change in the daily lives of SW Washingtonians.”
Hey, everybody. This is Heidi St. John. Thanks for joining me today at the podcast. Today is Monday, June 29th. This is episode 946. And today, I’m going to air part two of my interview with Rey Reynolds. We’ve been working hard to touch on the issues that are close to you right now. There’s so many things going on in the culture. And Rey has a very unique voice in a very unique time. Stick around, I think you’re going to be encouraged
Before we get going today, I want to remind you, a couple of things coming up. First of all, the brand new Bible study at Mom Strong International starts a week from today. And so, it’s a great time for you to join us at momstronginternational.com. The Scripture writing challenge for the month of July is going to be posted there really quickly. I want to encourage you guys to take a part of that. Also, thank you so much. We’re getting cards and letters of support here at the Homeschool Resource Center. We very much appreciate it. And we read every single one of those. If you’ve got questions, I realize today is Monday. Normally, I answer your questions on Mondays.
If you’ve got questions that you would like to have answered on the podcast, the podcast is now airing five days a week, and you can submit those to me at heidistjohn.com/mailboxmonday.
All right. Without further ado, here’s part two of my interview with Rey Reynolds.
You have an incredible voice to speak into the situation because not only have you been on the police force for 24 years, you’re also speaking as a Black man. This is not an issue of Black versus White. This is not. This is an issue of good versus evil. This is an issue of wrong versus right. And that’s what we need to focus on. And there are forces in this nation and they are at work right now, they’re working very hard to divide us.
[REY] That’s right.
[HEIDI] They’re working very hard to divide us. And I, as Heidi St. John, I’m not going to let that happen. And I know you’re not going to let it happen.
[REY] I’m not going to let it happen, Heidi.
[REY] And for people to try to divide for a race, divide by tribe, divide by nation. I’m going to tell you straight out, in the 49th, no.
[REY] This is going to be, that is enough. I will not stand idle nor will I be quiet while someone attempts to divide based on race. I am not a racist. I will never be a racist. And I know that right now, our nation doesn’t need racist policies. Whether they come from White extremists or Black extremists.
[HEIDI] We’re seeing it on both sides. This is where the narrative of White Privilege comes from. Again, it’s an opportunity to divide us even further. You and I were talking about this before we started the podcast, the same people that say that men cannot speak to the issue of abortion, because they don’t have a uterus. They’re the same people that say that White people can’t speak to the issue of racial injustice, because they don’t have enough pigment in their skin. No, this is not true.
If we are men and women of conscience, no matter if we’re male or female, or Black or White, we should be able to speak to the issues of injustice that we see around us and try to bring people together. And that’s what the spirit of the Lord does. The Bible says that where the spirit of the Lord is there’s freedom. There’s freedom. And every person that’s listening to this, we should care about freedom. We should care. If it breaks God’s heart, it should break our heart. Injustice breaks God’s heart. But we have whittled justice and injustice into identity politics. That is not where justice will be found. Am I right?
[REY] Yeah, absolutely right. Identity politics does nothing but divide, divide, divide. And what we’re trying to do here in this campaign is to unify, bring hope, and bring a change of mentality. Where there is not just utilizing these identity politics, where we have people looking at you and saying, “I see soon to be Senator Reynolds. And he is absolutely standing for something that I value.” Not just because it’s a conservative value, not because it’s a liberal value, but because it’s a value that we have here in this area. Do you know in this area we still have parades? Or used to until COVID hit us.
[HEIDI] We used to until the Rona.
[REY] Yeah, until the Rona hit us. We had parades. I had the honor of standing in the parade and being able to sing our National Anthem, a song of freedom, and power, and authority. I had the privilege of singing that. And as I sang that, up stands this little old man, he’s got his walker and he walks up to near the place where I was singing, barely able to stand, but he pushed down on that walker…
[HEIDI] Stand up straight.
[REY] … stood up. And when I sang, he brought his hands up in the salute. This was a World War II survivor.
[REY] A true hero. And he pulled his hands in … This had to hurt. It had to take … And he did not put his hands down until the song was over.
[HEIDI] Wow. Wow.
[REY] This is what makes Vancouver great. This is what makes our community great. We can then immediately, several members of the community, of the audience went to that man and held him there. And it’s almost as if it was like Moses’s hands being held..
[HEIDI] Yeah, I was just going to say, I can see Moses’s arms being held up.
[REY] They rushed over there and held him and then helped him walk back to his seat. It was fantastic.
[REY] That is community. And that’s why we can … That’s what makes us great. It’s not Rey Reynolds being Black. It’s not Heidi St. John being White. It doesn’t matter, any of that. What matters is that we as a community come together in unity because where there is unity, a blessing is commanded.
[HEIDI] That’s exactly right, yes.
[REY] And so, I’m very excited about that. It’s something that we … And I implore everyone to support what we’re standing for, which is nothing more than good versus evil.
[HEIDI] That’s exactly right. And you’ve been speaking obviously and working in the community now for a long time, and basically just running for Senate is taking it to the next level. But there are lots of places where people can run. We were talking about this before we started recording. People can get on library boards for goodness sake.
[REY] School boards.
[HEIDI] Please, for the love of all things holy. Get on the school board. Get involved. And you don’t have to have a child in the public school to get on a school board. You can be a homeschool parent and get on a school board, because what we’re doing is we’re talking about the decisions to be made about what kind of curriculum is going to influence our children. Right? And it’s important because the Bible teaches us in Luke 6:40 that when a student is fully trained, he’ll be like his teacher. We need to know not only who is teaching our kids, but what are they teaching our children.
[REY] There is.
[HEIDI] I know you have been at the front of this idea of educational opportunity here in Clark County. And I know there are lots and lots of people listening to this around the nation right now, who will be standing and cheering in agreement with you. We’ve come against comprehensive sex education.
[HEIDI] And we have said, “This will damage our cities, our communities, not just in the immediate future, but for generations to come because we’re shaping the hearts and minds of our children.” And I want listeners to understand that here in Washington state, we just had a massive victory, right?
[HEIDI] We collected 266,000, more than double the signatures that we needed to place referendum 90 on the ballot in the fall. And we did it in the middle of the Rona. And if we can collect 266,000 signatures against comprehensive sex education and against this assault against our children … And shame on you, Chris Reykdal, right? From the OSPI. Shame on you for passing this when you knew full well that even parents in liberal King County said, “No, no, no.” 70%. But our elected representatives … People, listen up. This is why you need to have good people representing you. Our elected officials are not listening anymore to their constituents. They’re going to these places and they’re not doing what the parents asked for. And they passed this anyway, basically, in the middle of the night.
And so, parents are stuck with it. And yet the voters of Washington state just got off the bench onto the battlefield. We collected 266,000 signatures. Now, the work begins. Now referendum 90 is going to be on the ballot and we want to vote it down. Right? And so, now we’re going to be doing that hard work. But my point is Rey, it can be done. And I think people feel like, “Oh, we live in liberal Washington state. We live in crazy town here. It can’t work. It can’t happen.” No, that’s not true.
[REY] That’s not.
[HEIDI] If every Christian, if every person of conviction, if every person whose spirit is troubled by what we see happening, by the graffiti that we see in our cities, by the spirit that we see coming down over our city, if every person would speak, every person would vote, Washington would look different in November. Am I right?
[REY] That’s exactly right, Heidi. That’s why we can do something about this. You can do something about this. This decline in our moral values, because of something like this teaching, even right down to the kindergarten. To the kindergarten level?
[HEIDI] Yeah, it’s pornographic.
[REY] … where you would begin to … If we were to describe this right now over the air, we would probably be censored. But we cannot let this happen.
[HEIDI] That’s right.
[REY] You need to stand up. And you’re right about this issue. Well, in a liberal area than this. No, forget that. Again, that’s a way to divide.
[HEIDI] That’s right.
[REY] That is not what we’re here for. We’re here to bring unity. And I know that there are families that I’ve spoke with … I’ll tell you a quick story, if you don’t mind.
[HEIDI] I love your stories.
[REY] We had a lady when we were doing the food during Juneteenth Day, where that’s the day when Texas finally got the word, “Hey, that slaves are free.” And it’s a day of celebration. It is a day that meant 600,000 people’s lives were lost to see this come about. The freedom of people.
[REY] These people said, “This is Juneteenth Day. It is a celebration of victory. It is a celebration of America that this happened. It is not a day to be destroying and… “
[HEIDI] Divided and angry and…
[REY] … and dividing and pushing aside.
[HEIDI] Toppling down our monuments.
[REY] No, negative. This is a time for celebration of what is great in America. On that day, we brought in, thanks to my campaign manager, we developed a whole thing of bringing in food. We got almost 900 pounds of food delivered. People were coming in by the ton. And this one lady came, and I used to work with her. I won’t name her name. She came in and she said, “Remember me, Officer Reynolds? You worked at Hudson Bay High School when I was there.” And I went, “Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yes.” And she goes, “I’m a dyed in the wool Democrat.”
[REY] And I said, “Yeah.” She goes, “But I respect you for what you did at the school. I saw you working with these kids. I saw how you affected them. I saw how you mentored boys that were troubled. I saw how you handled yourself. I saw this. It goes against some of the things I think about Republicans, but I saw you. Now, I can’t guarantee I’m going to vote for you.” She said. But this, she did say, “But I support you.” And she brings food to us. She brought a bag of food to this thing, and then told me directly, “I respect what you’ve done.” That is what we’re working for in Clark County. That’s what we’re working for in Vancouver. And that’s what you, as a citizen, as a person need to be working for, unity. Don’t let yourself fall into the trap of dividing. Don’t fall into that trap. Say no to it and join hands.
[HEIDI] It’s the adversary.
[REY] That’s right.
[HEIDI] We have all this division that comes from the adversary. It is a spirit that has fallen over. And I think this is the heaviness that people feel, right? You keep talking to people and you feel it’s like we’re walking through a … We’re hip deep in a mud slew right now. And it is because this thing that we’re facing is spiritual in nature. And that’s why I’m imploring people, listen to what the spirit of the living God says, right? And so, we know, because God says, “I have not given you a spirit of fear. Power, love, and a sound mind.” This is who we are in Christ.
[REY] That’s right.
[HEIDI] And so, the minute … And the Bible says in Romans, “There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ. Jesus.” When we feel like we have to apologize for the color of our skin, something’s wrong, something’s wrong, right?
[REY] That’s right.
[HEIDI] And so, listening to the Lord. Father, would you bring us together? Would you help us to love each other, help us to see past … Because there is hurt. There is hurt.
[REY] There is.
[HEIDI] There is injustice. And we’d be foolish to ignore that that happens, right? There are people, and I said this on my podcast weeks ago. Right now the police force has taken it in the chin because we’ve got a spiritual pandemic that’s happening in our nation right now. It is not the fault of the police officers. Are there police officers who have done wrong? Absolutely. There are people who have done wrong in every profession on the face of the earth. Let’s talk about Catholicism and priests in the Catholic church. I mean, for goodness sake, if we’re going to start taking aim at things, let’s at least do it across the board, right?
But what happens when the spirit of division comes in, is it singles out somebody and we want to pick them off. We’re going to pick … Because we’ll feel better about ourselves. If we can just pick off those guys, we’re going to feel like we move the needle. You’re not moving the needle anywhere…
[HEIDI] … except for backward.
[HEIDI] What we’re doing is we’re moving ourselves backward right now. We need to be looking for solutions. We need to be bringing ideas to the table. How can we come together? How can we heal the hurt instead of make the divide bigger? And this is something I love so much about you. I have been watching you obviously for years and honored to sit … I don’t know if you’ve noticed this, Rey. Maybe you didn’t, but I was late to the last prayer breakfast. Did you notice that I did the walk of shame all the way up to the front table?
[REY] No, I did not.
[HEIDI] Did you miss that?
[REY] I don’t remember seeing that.
[HEIDI] Yeah, yeah. I didn’t realize when they asked me to come and give an invocation, I did not realize that I was going to have to sit at the front table. I thought I was just going to sit at a table. And so, I walk in and I go, “Hey, I’m really sorry you guys. I’m 10 minutes late. I couldn’t help it. Blah, blah. This happened, that. Where do you guys want me to sit?” “Oh, you’re up there next to Ray?” I was like, “Wait, wait. At the table that’s facing the 800 people that are in this room?” “Yeah, that’s your spot right there next to that empty spot.” And I was like, “Oh my goodness.” I was so thankful though, when I got to sit down next to you and you’re like, “I thought you were never going to get here.” Yep, so happy.
But you have a joyfulness about you. This is kind of where I’m going. There is a joy in you because it is a fruit of the spirit. You are a man of God who is filled with the Spirit of God. And these are the kinds of people that we need in leadership in our nation, now more than we have ever needed them. And I am thrilled to see you, because it is dangerous. I mean, even for me. I’m not running for Senate right now, but I can tell you as a woman who has a platform who uses my platform to speak truth to the culture, it is a dangerous time to speak truth.
And there are forces who want truth to be squashed and silenced. They want to bully us and shame us into silence. And I will not be bullied and I will not be shamed because I am a woman of God. And you are a man of God.
[REY] That’s right.
[HEIDI] And God has given you authority to speak into the situation. Before we leave, I want to touch on a couple of things. You have been involved in a lot of things that I think even people who are not listening from Washington state would be interested because there are things we can do in communities all over the place. I want you to tell listeners really quick about the NOW Program, the PAL Program. We talked about this before.
[HEIDI] What is PAL and why should everybody in Vancouver go, “That’s amazing,” and get involved? What is it?
[REY] Now, just so everybody knows, of course, everything I say here right now is based on my own opinions. And I don’t represent the Vancouver Police Department, nor do I represent the city of Vancouver in anything…
[HEIDI] But you can represent Heidi St. John.
[REY] I’m sorry. Anything I say is my opinions and my opinions alone.
[REY] Having said that, I think one of the best things that have happened to us is what’s called the NOW Program, that’s part of this, where it’s called Neighbors On Watch. I was against it, absolutely against it. I thought it was the worst thing that ever happened. Totally bad decision by guys sitting in administrative seats. Wrong. It was the best thing that ever happened.
We have some of the most professional awesome people that are out there, that are professionals, that are retirees, that are coming to the area. They ride bikes, they do bike patrols. They find more stolen cars than police officers. It’s amazing. They are amazing at finding problems in the area. When we have parades or we have gatherings, they come together and they help. One time, we had a lady go down at Esther Short Park and she was down and they surrounded us, pushed back the crowd, made sure we had room to work on this lady and bring in an ambulance. Fantastic things.
They take part in bringing our community together, which is one of the best things that ever happened to our department. And to this whole area. They’re there within the whole Clark County, not just with Vancouver, it’s with the whole county. They are fantastic. And then I’m so proud of them because they do community and together we bring unity to that. And it’s a wonder, it’s a breath of fresh air. And so it’s just… So I’m excited about it.
[HEIDI] So we can link back to that also in the show notes today so people can find that.
[REY] Thank you.
[HEIDI] They can also find the net. So people are like, “What’s that? What’d you talk about?” I’ll link back to this stuff in the show notes.
[REY] That’d be fantastic. And one last thing I want to say about PAL, Police Activities League, this group is wonderful. A lot of our officers go to schools. I love reading at the different schools because we’re affecting the lives of these young people. Second grade, third grade, I’m right where I belong. And we read Green Eggs and Ham. It’s one of our best… I love reading it. I can do that without even reading.
[HEIDI] I love it.
[REY] It’s a wonderful thing. And then we have officers that are adopting classrooms, literally adopting and then going in there, showing them that police officers are not the robots, the evil people that the media is trying to portray. But that we’re real live humans. These are awesome programs, solutions that are being done in our area.
[HEIDI] I love it.
[REY] And so I’m excited about it. This is one of the best things that I think would happen. And again, it brings community. And Heidi, can I say one thing?
[REY] You brought up the issue of being a man of God and all of that. Yes, I am. We don’t battle against flesh and blood. This is to your believers I’m talking. We don’t battle against flesh and blood.
[HEIDI] Ephesians 6.
[REY] But we battle against the principalities and powers. The rulers of this present dark age. What does that mean? That means we don’t take up arms and be crazy and start doing things to start hurting people. No, it means time for you to stand up if you are a believer. If you choose to say that you serve the living God, then it’s time you stand up, raise your hand and start to pray. You mentioned about this spiritual blanket that seems to be coming over our area and how you went to the Waterfront, which is fantastic here in Vancouver. And then you saw..
[REY] Graffiti and filth written on the walls. Well, that is a spirit that’s there. And that’s where you, as a believer, you as a person who has a belief in God, it’s time for you to rise up. I can’t stress this enough, Heidi. This is a call to action.
[HEIDI] That’s right.
[REY] And so I just, I want to thank you so much for the privilege of being here, for the privilege of being able to speak to this audience, for the honor of being able to talk to many, many anointed people out there who have been called by the Lord himself. And I want to speak to those who don’t even know the Lord. I want to speak to you because you know, deep in your heart, that things aren’t right. And I want you to get behind me. I want you to stand behind me as we go forward. Stand behind me as we go into this morass, sometimes called politics.
No, you’re not going to get no politically correct things out of me all the time. No, you’re not going to get this super great slick statements that I’ve made. You won’t get that from me, but I guarantee this you will get, you will get honesty from me. You will get a true word that I will speak to you. When I’m wrong, I’ll admit it. Bt the main thing I want you to get, is get behind this thing. If you care about this area, here for the 49th, if you care about this area, get behind me.
[HEIDI] I will say too, because you didn’t mention and I don’t think I did either. You stand for medical freedom.
[HEIDI] Which right now is something that this is a hot topic. We’ve definitely talked about this on the podcast. My listeners are going to be very, very keen as to where you stand on that. And you have said, “Listen, where there’s a risk there should be a choice,” right? You stand for medical autonomy.
[REY] I absolutely do. And let’s get back to what we said earlier. Does the family have a right to decide how to raise our children? Does the family have a right to say, “This is what I want to teach my child.” Does the First Amendment apply at all? Can I make a decision that is best for my family? And what about the Fourth Amendment, the right against giving up information against unlawful searches and seizure?
[HEIDI] Hello. Yep.
[REY] Have we forgotten that? I took an oath, Heidi. I took an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the United States. I took that oath and I meant it. That means I want to protect your right to gather. Does Black Lives Matter have a right to protest and walk? Absolutely. That’s their first amendment, right? And I will defend it. Do they have a right to be violent and evil? Absolutely not.
[HEIDI] Not. That’s right.
[REY] But we have taken an oath to defend that constitution. And you have a right as a family to make your medical decisions for your children. And when I’m in the Senate, it will be one of my top priorities to make sure that the family has a right to make a decision, not having some bureaucratic group come in to dictate to the families of the 49th, to dictate to the families of Clark County, to dictate to the families of Washington State, what they can and can’t do with their families. You make that decision. You look at what has to be. And of course, maybe it started off with, I believe in science. I believe in looking at the facts. Let’s look at the facts. Let’s have repeatable experiments done, but let’s use the facts to guide where we go and not a bunch of opinions based on just some anonymous ideas.
[HEIDI] We’ll, let’s have access. I’m all for it. Access to the information. At the end of the day, these families need to be free to choose.
[REY] I agree.
[HEIDI] Families should be able to… They are free, or at least they should be, right, free to make their own decisions.
[REY] That’s right.
[HEIDI] And really that’s what you’re saying. You’re saying, “I support that.” For those of you who want to help support Rey in his campaign, this is a great opportunity for you to do that. You can send your donation to PO Box 1111. That’s actually really easy to remember. So four ones, PO Box 1111, Vancouver, Washington, 98666. All right. So this is where you can send your donations. Also, you can donate to Rey online at reyreynolds.com and Rey is spelled R-E-Y. So all of you who are remembering my friend Ray, from the sitcom, this doesn’t have an A. It’s an E. R-E-Y, reyreynolds.com. Rey, you are a treasure. You really are.
[REY] Thank you.
[HEIDI] You’re a treasure to me individually and to my husband, I know, he agrees and to this community. And I know you’re going to win. I know you’re going to win.
[REY] Yes, I am.
[HEIDI] And you’re going to be representing the 49th and you’re representing me.
[REY] Thank you.
[HEIDI] And you got my vote, my friend. And so I hope everyone listening to this is going to be encouraged by what you’re doing, and I hope inspired to get off the bench and onto the battlefield, wherever they are. You can stand up for your churches. Oh my goodness, you guys, open your churches. Open your churches. There are so many things. We got problems in this nation coming out our ears right now. And they’re going to continue until the men and women of conviction and courage and strength begin to stand up for such a time as this. So Rey Reynolds, thank you so much for coming on the show. It’s been a delight to have you.
[REY] It has been my pleasure to be on this show. I’ve learned so much. Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak to your listeners. And I again, want to thank you, listeners, for taking the time to listen to this podcast. It is both an honor, and a pleasure to know that there are good people like you out there that are willing to stand up. And I want to encourage you and I want to say thank you for standing up. I want to say thank you for getting off the bench. Thank you so much.
[HEIDI] That’s so good. Thank you, Rey.
[REY] Thank you again, Heidi.
[HEIDI] For more information on Rey Reynolds and his campaign to be in the Senate, representing the 49th District here in Washington State, you can find out more information by going to the podcast notes, the show notes at heidistjohn.com/podcast. Don’t forget, the show is now on Spotify. You can also find the show notes there. We love you guys. Continue, please stay faithful. The Lord of Heaven’s armies is in control. He loves you. He has a plan for your life, you guys. Hang in there. You were born for such a time as this. I’ll see you back here on Tuesday.